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We know how much is too much when we're eating โ€” going back for seconds, and thirds, of equal-portion sizes. Some don't stop with just one beer or drink. They continue, enjoying another and another and maybe a fifth or sixth.

The Orleans Parish Sheriff's Office gives weekly updates on how many people are housed in the parish jail. Many people stay there simply because they cannot post bail while awaiting pretrial hearings. Children are there because a new law says 17-year-olds accused of crimes can be treated as adults.

We've made progress since 2,187 people were there in 2014. That number fell to 1,133 by 2019. Officials have continued to bring that number down in recent years.

Things improved for youthful defendants in 2019 because state lawmakers passed the "Raise the Age" bill. That law meant we considered nonviolent 17-year-old offenders juveniles, not adults, and required them to serve time with other children in youth detention facilities โ€” not with adult offenders.

That was a significant change in the law. "Louisian has finally joined the rest of the country in treating 17-year-olds as children," the ถถา๕h Center for Children's Rights cheered.ฬ

Gov. Jeff Landry and the current Legislature decided they didn't like the idea of 17-year-old offenders being viewed as children by our legal system. They said if 17-year-olds do adult crimes, they should do adult time.

I get it. Really, I do.

But lowering the age to put 17-year-old kids behind bars with violent adults is a decision that shouldn't make sense to folks with common sense, compassion and empathy.

Reporter Missy Wilkinson of this newspaper recently wrote about jail overcrowding in ถถา๕h. I visited some of the same spaces she visited and saw some of what she saw.

"Cell blocks can house 60 inmates," she wrote. "But under a new law backed by Gov. Jeff Landry,ฬthe 16 youths in Block 2C are considered adults in court but must be separated from the 18-and-older population in jail."

Sixteen male youths in a cell block designed to hold 60 adult offenders might not seem like a big deal with the overcrowding Orleans Parish Sheriff Susan Hutson has to deal with daily. However, there are at least two big reasons why it is a big deal.

First, it's a waste of space that could be used to house adult offenders.

Second, it's a waste of 16 lives to house them in a space with limited activities.

The Travis Hill School inside the Orleans Parish jail providesฬyouths with instruction. But returning to a cell block with tables and benches and little else probably doesn't inspire them much.

Conditions at some youth detention centers are worse, but at least there the youths currently housed at the Orleans jail wouldn't have to deal with having to be separated from adults.

And the city wouldn't have to explain why it continues to break a promise it made to the MacArthur Foundation.

The city accepted a $2 million MacArthur grant and pledged to reduce the jail population to the New Orleans City Council's 2019 limit of 1,250. The ideal goal was 998.

Subtract 16 from 1,462 and the number would still be above the council's and the foundation's goals.

ถถา๕h Attorney General Liz Murrill provided a rather simplistic solution to the jail overcrowding issue:ฬโ€œI think people should stop committing crimes in New Orleans and that would alleviate the crisis."

an incarcerated advocacy group, used data from the ถถา๕h Department of Public Safety and Corrections that showedฬthat Orleans Parish had the highest number of people incarcerated โ€” and Jefferson Parish had the second highest. The study identified 28 smaller parishes with higher per capita incarceration rates than Jefferson.

Does that mean the only answer to jail overcrowding is for people in Orleans, Jefferson and 28 other parishes to stop committing crimes?ฬ

I didn't think so.
After reading an earlier version of this column, Murrill responded on X, formerly Twitter, with this retort: "I'm more concerned with justice and victims than 1 17-year-old offender's comfort level. Our efforts to combat crime are having dramatic results. The time of putting criminals first in Louisiana is over!"
That's not unexpected. We disagree. I think we should care about the offender and the victim.
How about having a larger conversation? Since many of us know people who have been accused or convicted of crimes, people who have spent hours, a night, or even a court-imposed sentence in jail, how about taking another look at why we punish people, what we want them to learn while in jail, and how we want them to "pay" for their crimes?
It'll take some time for us to hold such a serious conversation, so let's start with the Orleans Parish jail overcrowding โ€” by keepingฬchildren out of jails built to house adults.

Email Will Sutton at wsutton@theadvocate.com.

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